Heresies no end from the Gnostics to Schleiermacher, Spong and Wagner..

From Gnosticism and The Apostles Creed to 20th Century John Shelby Spong

Luke 16:19 “There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and fared sumptuously every day. 20 “But there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, full of sores, who was laid at his gate,

Matthew 25:41 “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels

Jesus was explicit in that the two mentioned were CERTAIN individuals not metaphors. What if your conjectures were wrong against the accepted traditional biblical views? Besides a potential fiery fate, how many are being led astray from the biblical truth through the likes of John Shelby Spong who has deconstructed the biblical Christ for another Jesus? And why should pro-gay ministers like Rob Bell stop short of incestuous homosexuality, and bestiality at Folsom street, etc.? Yet to think that despite the descending dive of depraved man The New Apostolic Reformation, whose theology is somewhat influenced by R.J. Rushdoony, promises a Victorious Eschatology that hands the world over to Christ at His Second Advent when the Lord has come to judge the world and destroy His enemies! ~ L.S.J

An Examination of the Theology of Bishop John Shelby Spong by Stephanie D. Monk, Patrick Henry College

What’s Wrong With Bishop Spong? Laymen Rethink the Scholarship of John Shelby Spong © Michael Bott and Jonathan Sarfati

The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) & Hexachlorophene by Jacob Prasch

A Tale Of Two Kingdoms by Sandy Simpson

“No, I’m delighted that liberal theologians do their best to do what Pio Nono said shouldn’t be done — try to accommodate Christianity to modern science, modern culture, and democratic society. If I were a fundamentalist Christian, I’d be appalled by the wishy-washiness of their version of the Christian faith. But since I am a non-believer who is frightened of the barbarity of many fundamentalist Christians (e.g., their homophobia), I welcome theological liberalism. Maybe liberal theologians will eventually produce a version of Christianity so wishy-washy that nobody will be interested in being a Christian any more. If so, something will have been lost, but probably more will have been gained.” Richard Rorty (1931 – 2007), a postmodern philosopher.

Question: “What is liberal Christian theology?” by S. Michael Houdmann

Answer: In liberal Christian teaching, which is not Christian at all, man’s reason is stressed and is treated as the final authority. Liberal theologians seek to reconcile Christianity with secular science and modern thinking. In doing so, they treat science as all-knowing and the Bible as fable-laden and false. Genesis’ early chapters are reduced to poetry or fantasy, having a message, but not to be taken literally (in spite of Jesus’ having spoken of those early chapters in literal terms). Mankind is not seen as totally depraved, and thus liberal theologians have an optimistic view of the future of mankind. The social gospel is also emphasized, while the inability of fallen man to fulfill it is denied. Whether a person is saved from his sin and its penalty in hell is no longer the issue; the main thing is how man treats his fellow man. “Love” of our fellow man becomes the defining issue. As a result of this “reasoning” by liberal theologians, the following doctrines are taught by liberal quasi-Christian theologians:
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Characteristics of Liberal Christianity

Different and varied views are encouraged in Liberal Christianity as part of the goal to experience Christianity on a personal level. A less hardline approach towards doctrine is taken than in conservative Christianity; unique ways of approaching God and talking about Christianity are encouraged. With this sense of personal freedom and the emphasis on individual experience, dogmatic statements and claims of absolute truth on finer doctrinal points are not part of the dialogue amongst liberal Christians. Many liberal Christians can and do hold conservative postions; the contrast between Liberal Christianity and Conservative Christianity is that appeals to history, tradition, or authority have a notably lessened effect on dialogue in Liberal Christianity. The search for truth is an ongoing task rather than something that has been completed. The Apostle Paul’s statement sums up this attitude that prevails in liberal Christian thinking, “For now we see through a glass, darkly;” 1 Corinthians 13:12.

A non-literal view of Scripture, is common amongst liberal Christians. Many view the Bible as a book written by men who were inspired by God, rather than an inerrant view of the Bible as a divinely inspired book, written by God through men. Historical contexts and higher criticisms of the Bible play an important part in how they relate their faith and beliefs to the modern world.
An intimate and personal view of God, is another hallmark of Liberal Christianity. Each person comes to their own understanding of the who, what, how and why questions relating to the nature and purpose of God. Each person has their own perception of how God moves and works in their lives.
Liberal Christianity tends to have a wider scope in their views on salvation (including universalist beliefs). This inclusiveness often extends to those outside of mainstream Christianity who do not declare themselves as ‘Christians’ in the orthodox sense of the word. Right action generally takes precedence over right belief.
Many non-traditional views on heaven and hell are prevalent amongst liberal Christians. These range from ideas about separation from God or temporal punishment to the belief that there is no hell. Views on heaven are similarly varied in their prevalence.
There is an emphasis on inclusive fellowship and community amongst liberal Christians. With their more inclusive views on God, salvation, women, homosexuality, Scripture, and creation, emphasis is placed on community-based life centered around values of compassion, mercy, and affirmation of human dignity; this is seen in contrast to the focus on sinfulness and moral rectitude one is more likely to find in conservative Christian thought.

The Elements of Liberalism

In the context of Christianity, liberalism is the moving away from traditional, historical interpretation of Scripture into “new” interpretations that are more consistent with secular views.  Liberalism occurs in different forms and intensities.  Some liberals deny that Jesus even existed, or say that the Bible is a good book full of moral teachings, or that Adam and Eve were metaphors, etc.  On the other hand, there are liberals who hold to the essentials of the Christian faith but depart from its literalness in historic understanding in areas such as male only elders – the topic under examination in this section.  So, since liberalism is a constant threat to Christian teaching, wouldn’t it make sense to examine some of the elements of liberalism?

Following is a list of basic principles, and examples, that reveal some aspects of liberalism.  Of course, not all liberals hold to all the points, but as you read through them you should see that it comes down to one thing, not believing the Bible for what it says.

  1. Denial of inspiration, inerrancy, and/or authority of the Bible
    1. Saying that the Bible has errors, is “written by man”, is only a guide, or is not absolutely true.
  2. Denying historic accuracy of the Bible.
    1. Denying that Adam, Eve, Moses, Jesus, etc., were real people.
    2. Denying that the Exodus happened.
    3. Denying that there was an actual Garden of Eden, etc.
  3. Denial of particular parts of the Bible as being authentic
    1. Denying that Moses wrote Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy
    2. Denying Paul’s letter’s as authentic.
    3. Denying that the Gospels are accurate, etc.
  4. Denial a basic Christian doctrine
    1. Trinity, deity of Christ, resurrection, etc.
    2. Salvation by grace.
    3. Denying that Jesus is the only way to salvation, the doctrine of hell, etc.
  5. Denial of historic understanding of Scripture and substituting new ones.
    1. Redefining salvation as self-deliverance from oppression.
    2. Saying that Jesus’ didn’t literally rise from the dead and that it is a metaphor for success over trials.
    3. “Husband of one wife” is not taken literally.  It is a phrase applied to wives, too.
    4. Homosexuality is not a sin; it is an alternative lifestyle.
  6. Affirming experience over Scripture
    1. A person’s feelings supersede biblical revelation.
    2. “Feeling” that Jesus isn’t the only way to God.
    3. As long as you are sincere, God will let you go to heaven.
  7. Using outside sources to interpret scripture
    1. Use of psychology manuals, self-help books, science books, etc. and subjecting the Bible to their teaching.
  8. Saying the Bible is outdated, patriarchal
    1. This is an attempt to invalidate scripture by dismissing it as ancient and therefore, not true.
    2. It also negates the inspiration of Scripture because it implies the patriarchal structure is due to cultural influence and not scriptural revelation.
  9. Imposing secular ideals upon Scripture
    1. Women ordination
    2. Pro homosexuality
    3. Denying moral absolutes
    4. Upholding evolution as how mankind arrived on earth
    5. Defending “abortion rights” from scripture.
  10. Gender Neutral wording in reference to God, people, mankind, etc.
    1. Referring to God as Mother God or Father-Mother God.
    2. Referring to various references of male leaders as people.

As you read through the list, did you think of any church groups or denominations that fit in any of the categories?  Maybe you have some friends who are liberal or, maybe you are yourself in some areas.

Is liberalism dangerous?

Yes, liberalism is dangerous because it leads to a denial of biblical truth.  But denial of biblical truth usually means that things contrary to Scripture are often affirmed.  Consider this quote:

“If we look at the denominations that approved women’s ordination from 1956-1976, we find that several of them, such as the United Methodist church and the United Presbyterian Church (now called the Presbyterian Church-USA), have large contingents pressing for (a) the endorsement of homosexual conduct as morally valid and (b) the approval of homosexual ordination.”1

In the article Denominations, women ordination, and other errors, we see that women’s ordination is often accompanied by other errors; namely, supporting abortion, affirming homosexuality, and a denial of the inspiration and inerrancy of Scripture.  It is rare that heresies are singular.  They come in clusters.

Since Jesus claimed to be God in flesh (John 8:24) and said that no one comes to the Father but through him (John 14:6), then we must make a decision.  Either what Jesus said is true or it is false.  Either Jesus was crazy or he was telling us something so profound, that we better listen carefully.  Which is it?  If you hold to biblical authority and inspiration, you will believe what Christ said.  If you hold to liberalism, why should you?

Since Jesus rose from the dead, walked on water, raised others from the dead, performed miracles, healed people, etc., he has demonstrated his right to speak authoritatively.  Therefore, we must consider his words carefully.  When he warned people about eternal damnation are we to consider his words as metaphor or absolute truth?  Did he really rise from the dead, or is that just an illustration about how we can have victory over our problems?

Either what the Bible tells us in its totality is true or it is to be dismissed as the fable.  I don’t know about you, but I consider eternity too long of a time to be wrong and I cannot dismiss the words of Christ as being fabrications.  I trust in the absolute inspiration, inerrancy, infallibility, and authority of the Bible.

Liberalism leads away from biblical fidelity and compromises Scriptural truth.  It only needs the door to be open a crack in order to push its way through.  The only guarantee against the liberal influence on the church, is to set our minds and eyes upon the word of God, study it diligently, and believe what it says.

Religious leaders highlight significance of water at WCC assembly — World Council of Churches
04 November 2013 A symbolic act of pouring water into one common vessel, carried out by religious leaders representing Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Jewish and Buddhist faiths, marked the significance of water in various religious traditions. This action took place at the World Council of Churches (WCC) 10th Assembly, currently underway in Busan, Republic of Korea.

In response to the above article I wrote the following and send it to, among others, The National Council of Churches in Singapore (NCCS) pertaining to its affiliation with the World Council of Churches (WCC). The issue may be just as relevant to your sphere should you choose to share the gravity of the matter: how repulsive and blasphemous is it to have our Living Water amalgamate with others in one vessel? That’s ecumenism gone pagan! Each and every member of the beloved flock of God in the so-called care of the NCCS is in that cauldron of ecumenical crass. All of these have looked to NCCS for accountability and credibility and yet the foolhardiness! Until NCCS revoke their stance, they are ever guilty by omission and commission from anyone across the globe that reads the article. If it breaks my heart to see this vile injustice, what more of God? ~ L.S.J


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